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Riverpigusmc 05-21-2015 02:48 PM

Wassa "Glock"?

pitor 05-22-2015 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 110799)
Your trigger will become lighter after some shooting. You can Google(Youtube) a Glock 25 cent trigger job. Watch a few videos, it is pretty simple. I also install 3.5Lb connectors in my Glocks, andI polish the internals for a smoother pull. All very simple, all on Youtube. OR....you can go to a local gun show. There is almost always a Glock Certified Armorer at every gun show. Maybe $60-$65 and you'll have a REAL trigger job, replacement springs and connector included. Funny how I used to tune all my Glocks, for decades. Now for the first time I am leaning to going to the gun show, dropping off a gun for a trigger job, and shopping the aisles. I wondered why this was happening to me until I came across my birth certificate and saw the date I was born on. :D

This. .25 trigger job plus 3.5 lb connector, great.

pitor 05-22-2015 12:25 AM

Glock 43? Lol
https://youtu.be/D477eDWyAyI

girphoto 05-22-2015 10:53 AM

Howdy All

Just to let you know, Glock triggers are Glock Triggers and there is no actual $.25 trigger job or shooting that will smooth out a Glock trigger or make it what you want it to be (No pre, no post travel and a quick reset).

Can this be accomplished, the simple answer is YES!
But it is not $.25 and just taking a little polish to it will also not make it what you want.. There is a lot that goes into it including a set of custom springs etc.

There is actually no 3.5# connector and if you think that just putting a "-" connector in you gun is going to achieve this you are only kidding your self.

It is a name given to the "-" connector but again, there is more to be done to get the trigger where you want it.
Just ask ColMike and ask him what he thinks of my trigger jobs.

Yep, I build Glocks for Competition, (Limited & Open) and Glocks for Carry along with special unique Glocks.

Right now working on a 38Super Glock.... good for hunting or competition..

As far as the Glock 43 goes......GREAT gun....although the trigger out of the box it heavy, it is crisp,and breaks fast. With a little work it become a very, very nice trigger in at 4.5#'s with a clean break, no under or over travel and a fast rest.


Anyone in my area that wants to look at and try one of my Custom Glocks including my 43 just give me a call.
My competition 17 breaks about 2#'s and is a convertible Lmited or Open Gun.


As far as having a Block Hand for a Glock....I build lowers that hold and point just like a 1911..

So what Else?????


That is my story and I am sticking to it...........


GaryR

milkmanjoe 05-22-2015 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girphoto (Post 110952)
Howdy All

Just to let you know, Glock triggers are Glock Triggers and there is no actual $.25 trigger job or shooting that will smooth out a Glock trigger or make it what you want it to be (No pre, no post travel and a quick reset).

Can this be accomplished, the simple answer is YES!
But it is not $.25 and just taking a little polish to it will also not make it what you want.. There is a lot that goes into it including a set of custom springs etc.

There is actually no 3.5# connector and if you think that just putting a "-" connector in you gun is going to achieve this you are only kidding your self.

It is a name given to the "-" connector but again, there is more to be done to get the trigger where you want it.
Just ask ColMike and ask him what he thinks of my trigger jobs.

Yep, I build Glocks for Competition, (Limited & Open) and Glocks for Carry along with special unique Glocks.

Right now working on a 38Super Glock.... good for hunting or competition..

As far as the Glock 43 goes......GREAT gun....although the trigger out of the box it heavy, it is crisp,and breaks fast. With a little work it become a very, very nice trigger in at 4.5#'s with a clean break, no under or over travel and a fast rest.


Anyone in my area that wants to look at and try one of my Custom Glocks including my 43 just give me a call.
My competition 17 breaks about 2#'s and is a convertible Lmited or Open Gun.


As far as having a Block Hand for a Glock....I build lowers that hold and point just like a 1911..

So what Else?????


That is my story and I am sticking to it...........


GaryR

You're splitting hairs...a simple polishing of internals and a 3.5 connector make a huge difference compared to a stock Glock trigger. Glocks for competition are a different animal than a Glock for self defense.

A Glock will NEVER be a 1911, nor will it ever point/shoot like one. Ever.

Apples and Oranges. Boo Hoo.

ColMike 05-23-2015 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe (Post 110969)
A Glock will NEVER be a 1911, nor will it ever point/shoot like one. Ever.

Apples and Oranges. Boo Hoo.

Why would you want it to be? If you want a 1911? If you want cheerios you dont buy sugar pops. I have some of both varieties. Stock Glock triggers leave a lot to be desired. Gary does good Work on mine. I like them.

On the other hand, when i shot on the Army pistol team, the first thing we did when we got a 1911 in the arms room was a trigger job. When i was in a regular Army unit, i thought the stock trigger heavy, rough and traveled more than i like. We just didnt want them at competition condition in a combat unit. Someone would have shot themselves in the leg or worse at 2.5#. Todays 1911 in the DW, Wilson, etc have already had their triggger jobs, just look at the price tag.

I have a 1911 on the column of my truck. When I go to the woods, a G19/17, and concealed, a kahr pm9. All three have their pros and cons.

Botttom line, in most cases, my glocks shoot as good if not better than my 1911 and even with a tuneup cost less than a wilson, NHC, etc.

YMMV.

milkmanjoe 05-23-2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColMike (Post 111020)
Why would you want it to be? If you want a 1911? If you want cheerios you dont buy sugar pops. I have some of both varieties. Stock Glock triggers leave a lot to be desired. Gary does good Work on mine. I like them.

On the other hand, when i shot on the Army pistol team, the first thing we did when we got a 1911 in the arms room was a trigger job. When i was in a regular Army unit, i thought the stock trigger heavy, rough and traveled more than i like. We just didnt want them at competition condition in a combat unit. Someone would have shot themselves in the leg or worse at 2.5#. Todays 1911 in the DW, Wilson, etc have already had their triggger jobs, just look at the price tag.

I have a 1911 on the column of my truck. When I go to the woods, a G19/17, and concealed, a kahr pm9. All three have their pros and cons.

Botttom line, in most cases, my glocks shoot as good if not better than my 1911 and even with a tuneup cost less than a wilson, NHC, etc.

YMMV.

I don't want it to be, nor would I make claims it could happen. Cause it cannot. A Glock, like the original 1911, is nothing more than a combat handgun. Meant to be more reliable than target accurate. 1911's came up to a higher level of accuracy, due to, of course, accurizing. Glocks do not and never will have the ability to be as accurate as a properly tuned 1911. Never. If anyone thinks they can I will ask why 1911's constistantly win at Pendleton and Quantico.....
And by they way, I own over forty Glocks, mostly 17's, going back to Gen1's. I am Pro-Glock for a SD pistol, carrying a G17 customized by Lane at Cold Bore Customs right now. As good as it point shoots I have stock 1911's that are WAY more accurate, especially after the thirty yard marker.
I am very happy that this conversation is happening now. My plan for the last two weeks was to ask Gary to "have his way" with a stock G17. Much as I know about the pistols I always maintain that somebody always knows more, can do more. Gary's posts say that he is that person, and I have faith he is. Now I just hafta feel the difference fer myself.

brownie 05-23-2015 03:49 PM

I've never changed or altered the standard 5.5 trigger on any of my glocks. They'll drill one small ragged hole at 5 yrds if the shooter does his part. I shoot 4-5 rds a second with stock glock 5.5 triggers. Splits run .16-.18 normally with the occasional .15 or .19 split.

I see NO need to work on a factory glock trigger. I do see a need to shoot the snot of it and learn the trigger. I'm not sure I'd spend money on a "trigger job" to gain very little where splits or rds per second is concerned.

I've got over 120K rds through the g17 1st gen.

Keep in mind, the above after carrying [ professionally on the streets ] 1911's over 28 years full time, sometimes two. Hand me a 1911, I shoot it well, hand me a glock, I shoot it just as well.

It did take me 1K rds through the glock to reach the same level of proficiency with the g17, so the advice I give is, go shoot the snot of out it and marry the trigger finger to the glock as you have the 1911s.

Caleb 05-23-2015 05:51 PM

What brownie said....

Now, if you really need to "fix" a glock trigger. .......just buy an M&P. Trigger fixed. :D

pitor 05-24-2015 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownie (Post 111032)
I've never changed or altered the standard 5.5 trigger on any of my glocks. They'll drill one small ragged hole at 5 yrds if the shooter does his part. I shoot 4-5 rds a second with stock glock 5.5 triggers. Splits run .16-.18 normally with the occasional .15 or .19 split.

I see NO need to work on a factory glock trigger. I do see a need to shoot the snot of it and learn the trigger. I'm not sure I'd spend money on a "trigger job" to gain very little where splits or rds per second is concerned.

I've got over 120K rds through the g17 1st gen.

Keep in mind, the above after carrying [ professionally on the streets ] 1911's over 28 years full time, sometimes two. Hand me a 1911, I shoot it well, hand me a glock, I shoot it just as well.

It did take me 1K rds through the glock to reach the same level of proficiency with the g17, so the advice I give is, go shoot the snot of out it and marry the trigger finger to the glock as you have the 1911s.

But just to play devil's advocate, it could be argued that rather than spending hundreds of dollars in ammo throwing rounds downrange, one could also spend half of that money on a trigger job, which in no way replaces trigger time, and still make the weapon more accurate to one's ability.


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