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Grouse 06-26-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ColMike (Post 55670)
what if you are consistently inaccurate?

then you are named Clyde:D

Dave Waits 06-27-2013 09:13 AM

First of all, what destroyed accuracy in shooting was the advent of High-Capacity magazines. Think about it, in WWII the average was one hit for every 12 rounds fired, in Korea it was one hit for every 20 rounds fired( Higher but, still a good ratio). In Vietnam it was one hit for every 120 thousand rounds fired. These stats are based on rounds fired versus body-counts for ground-warfare.

When people can throw more rounds faster, they don't worry about hitting as much as putting out fire in the general direction of the target. We had a police incident some years back in which a 'Domestic-Terrorist' and a State Trooper went at it at a distance of about fifteen feet. Between the two over twenty-three rounds were fired in less than ten seconds with zero hits. They did succeed in scaring the hell out of each other but, that was about it.

When I took the 250 we were having discussion one afternoon about the advantages of different Semi-Autos. One of my classmates brought up the high capacity of the Browning Hi-Power as an advantage. El Jefe looked at him for a second and said," If you cannot resolve a situation with seven rounds what, on Gods' Green-Earth makes you assume you will with fourteen?"

I'll take quickness, movement and accuracy over speed and a high-rate of fire anyday. Thinking back, the ambushes that were the most efficient were ones involving quick, aimed, Semi-Auto fire, not a bunch of guys trying to see who could empty their magazine first.

BTW, when engaging a right-handed shooter, always move to your left, it causes them to make more movement to shoot, increasing their chances of a miss.

Snipersnest 06-27-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Waits (Post 55707)
In Vietnam it was one hit for every 120 thousand rounds fired. These stats are based on rounds fired versus body-counts for ground-warfare.

Charlie used to drag off their dead and wounded to counter the body count program we had. If you stick with the basic tenets of shooting, building muscle memory, accuracy and speed come naturally.

Originally Posted by Snipersnest
Accuracy is consistancy, consistancy is accuracy. That was a direct quote from our instructor in counter-sniper school.

Dave Waits 06-27-2013 02:23 PM

Well yes, consistancy is the pure basis of accuracy,both with the gun and the shooter. If the weapon does everything the same and the shooter also, theoritic
ly every shot will land in the same spot. However, neither is perfect.

Speed is gained through repetition and body strength. The basic idea is that as you gain experience through repetition and build the muscle in your arms and shoulders to combat recoil you will gain speed along with accuracy.

Snipersnest 06-27-2013 03:09 PM

Exactly!

DrHenley 06-28-2013 11:36 PM

"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything."
- Wyatt Earp

TLE2 06-30-2013 09:36 PM

Didn't Wyatt Erp say that fast shooters usually lie dead in the street from an accurate shot? Or something like that.

If you can be fast an accurate, be fast.


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