Glock Trigger
 

Dear Ellison,

My EDC is a DW CCO or a Sig P938. Yesterday I picked up a new Glock 19 Gen 4 that fits my hand like a glove. I'm hoping to be able to carry this pistol after breaking it in. Haven't shot her yet but did lots of dry firing while watching TV last night. (A great documentary, THE WIDOWMAKER, on Netflix. Everyone needs to watch this! Subject - how to prevent heart attacks. I have two stents in my LAD so this really has me thinking.)

Anyway, I digress_


My initial Glock impression is the trigger pull feels very heavy, very long and very gritty. Is this the typical Glock trigger? After firing several hundred rounds through her can I expect this to improve or is there some mod you Glock guys make to your triggers?

Now Ellison, please put a sock in you mouth so you can't phone me :), and put mittens on your hands so you can't type a note to me :):), and give others a chance to share their experience.

Thank you Ellison, I love you brother!

Jim

I hope you don't mind if I answer.
First off anyone that's never shot a Glock it takes some getting used to their trigger. One of the things a lot of people don't like them.
That being said check the trigger pull. It should be somewhere around the 5.5 lbs.
Anymore then that it probably has the new York trigger on it.
Also, there are a lot of after market triggers out there for them. Although, I have not used one yet.

Your trigger will become lighter after some shooting. You can Google(Youtube) a Glock 25 cent trigger job. Watch a few videos, it is pretty simple. I also install 3.5Lb connectors in my Glocks, andI polish the internals for a smoother pull. All very simple, all on Youtube. OR....you can go to a local gun show. There is almost always a Glock Certified Armorer at every gun show. Maybe $60-$65 and you'll have a REAL trigger job, replacement springs and connector included. Funny how I used to tune all my Glocks, for decades. Now for the first time I am leaning to going to the gun show, dropping off a gun for a trigger job, and shopping the aisles. I wondered why this was happening to me until I came across my birth certificate and saw the date I was born on. :D

I will chime in, I have a glock 21 the 10MM for hunting. I didn't mind the stiff trigger because I am taking long shots with it so it worked out. I like my glock, its a good gun shoots straight, better after I changed the barrel. I did nothing to my trigger and its lighter than factory now but still stiffer then I would have in a 1911. Just use it as is for now and see how it plays out. You can get trigger kits everwhere on line if you still want to swap out. Glocks are super easy to work on. Very simple gun really.

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Btw, I'm waiting for my Glock 43 to come in. :D

Me too...:D

is that the new .38?

I had a glock once, never again. If it fits your hand you must have square hands

Single stack 9mm.

Wassa "Glock"?

This. .25 trigger job plus 3.5 lb connector, great.

Glock 43? Lol
https://youtu.be/D477eDWyAyI

Howdy All

Just to let you know, Glock triggers are Glock Triggers and there is no actual $.25 trigger job or shooting that will smooth out a Glock trigger or make it what you want it to be (No pre, no post travel and a quick reset).

Can this be accomplished, the simple answer is YES!
But it is not $.25 and just taking a little polish to it will also not make it what you want.. There is a lot that goes into it including a set of custom springs etc.

There is actually no 3.5# connector and if you think that just putting a "-" connector in you gun is going to achieve this you are only kidding your self.

It is a name given to the "-" connector but again, there is more to be done to get the trigger where you want it.
Just ask ColMike and ask him what he thinks of my trigger jobs.

Yep, I build Glocks for Competition, (Limited & Open) and Glocks for Carry along with special unique Glocks.

Right now working on a 38Super Glock.... good for hunting or competition..

As far as the Glock 43 goes......GREAT gun....although the trigger out of the box it heavy, it is crisp,and breaks fast. With a little work it become a very, very nice trigger in at 4.5#'s with a clean break, no under or over travel and a fast rest.


Anyone in my area that wants to look at and try one of my Custom Glocks including my 43 just give me a call.
My competition 17 breaks about 2#'s and is a convertible Lmited or Open Gun.


As far as having a Block Hand for a Glock....I build lowers that hold and point just like a 1911..

So what Else?????


That is my story and I am sticking to it...........


GaryR

You're splitting hairs...a simple polishing of internals and a 3.5 connector make a huge difference compared to a stock Glock trigger. Glocks for competition are a different animal than a Glock for self defense.

A Glock will NEVER be a 1911, nor will it ever point/shoot like one. Ever.

Apples and Oranges. Boo Hoo.

Why would you want it to be? If you want a 1911? If you want cheerios you dont buy sugar pops. I have some of both varieties. Stock Glock triggers leave a lot to be desired. Gary does good Work on mine. I like them.

On the other hand, when i shot on the Army pistol team, the first thing we did when we got a 1911 in the arms room was a trigger job. When i was in a regular Army unit, i thought the stock trigger heavy, rough and traveled more than i like. We just didnt want them at competition condition in a combat unit. Someone would have shot themselves in the leg or worse at 2.5#. Todays 1911 in the DW, Wilson, etc have already had their triggger jobs, just look at the price tag.

I have a 1911 on the column of my truck. When I go to the woods, a G19/17, and concealed, a kahr pm9. All three have their pros and cons.

Botttom line, in most cases, my glocks shoot as good if not better than my 1911 and even with a tuneup cost less than a wilson, NHC, etc.

YMMV.

I don't want it to be, nor would I make claims it could happen. Cause it cannot. A Glock, like the original 1911, is nothing more than a combat handgun. Meant to be more reliable than target accurate. 1911's came up to a higher level of accuracy, due to, of course, accurizing. Glocks do not and never will have the ability to be as accurate as a properly tuned 1911. Never. If anyone thinks they can I will ask why 1911's constistantly win at Pendleton and Quantico.....
And by they way, I own over forty Glocks, mostly 17's, going back to Gen1's. I am Pro-Glock for a SD pistol, carrying a G17 customized by Lane at Cold Bore Customs right now. As good as it point shoots I have stock 1911's that are WAY more accurate, especially after the thirty yard marker.
I am very happy that this conversation is happening now. My plan for the last two weeks was to ask Gary to "have his way" with a stock G17. Much as I know about the pistols I always maintain that somebody always knows more, can do more. Gary's posts say that he is that person, and I have faith he is. Now I just hafta feel the difference fer myself.

I've never changed or altered the standard 5.5 trigger on any of my glocks. They'll drill one small ragged hole at 5 yrds if the shooter does his part. I shoot 4-5 rds a second with stock glock 5.5 triggers. Splits run .16-.18 normally with the occasional .15 or .19 split.

I see NO need to work on a factory glock trigger. I do see a need to shoot the snot of it and learn the trigger. I'm not sure I'd spend money on a "trigger job" to gain very little where splits or rds per second is concerned.

I've got over 120K rds through the g17 1st gen.

Keep in mind, the above after carrying [ professionally on the streets ] 1911's over 28 years full time, sometimes two. Hand me a 1911, I shoot it well, hand me a glock, I shoot it just as well.

It did take me 1K rds through the glock to reach the same level of proficiency with the g17, so the advice I give is, go shoot the snot of out it and marry the trigger finger to the glock as you have the 1911s.

What brownie said....

Now, if you really need to "fix" a glock trigger. .......just buy an M&P. Trigger fixed. :D

But just to play devil's advocate, it could be argued that rather than spending hundreds of dollars in ammo throwing rounds downrange, one could also spend half of that money on a trigger job, which in no way replaces trigger time, and still make the weapon more accurate to one's ability.

And then we have the aging guy(ME) who spent his youth with half frozen wet hands milking cows/delivering milk in sub zero temperaures. This is the guy who depends on alterations so he can shoot thousands of rounds in a weekend. I can shoot thousands of rounds from a 1911, but I find the lighter weight Glock more punishing on my hands. So, Brownie's theory of practice till you get it cannot work for everyone. But once the alteration(s) are complete, yup, practice till you get it.

An educated trigger finger needs not have a trigger job to shoot with the best of them. As an example, Miculek's race gun went down [ revo used d/a only ] one match early in his career with S+W, who was on scene and handed him a stock 45acp revo. He won the match at the end of the day against the best of the best.

He's still trying to break Ed McGivern's many records for speed and accuracy, he broken a few so far, Ed also shooting stock s+w revos back on the 30's and 40's.

The 1K rds to shoot the g17 as well as the 1911's I'd carried for 30+ years was learning the trigger and the variance in grip angle. Upwards of 300K rds through the 1911's over decades, 1K on the glock, I was shooting it with the same speed and accuracy.

If you don't shoot, you can't shoot. As you know, students hand me their firearms all the time and I shoot them equally as well as my own make/models. In my own case, the carrying and shooting a Sig da/sa while in blue for several years really increased the trigger finger education. In 3-4K rounds, I could shoot the 226 or 228 as well as the 1911's after decades. A lighter trigger may have saved me 1-2Krds down range, but the trigger finger wouldn't have been any more educated or made a difference in speed or accuracy.

So yes, one might save a few K of ammo with a trigger job, but the well educated trigger finger that can operated a 5.5# stock glock trigger or a Sig DA/SA 10/4 trigger system can be handed any firearm and see excellent results.

Half the reason many carry, shoot, and prefer a 1911? Many reasons but one important one is it's trigger weight. My 1911's sd guns are set at 4.5#'s, the glock is another pound on the pull weight over whats considered the best trigger of any firearm made.

Great post brownie. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this