1911s and IDPA
 

Hi guys.

I like shooting IDPA and now that I have my new Springfield RO I want to shoot it in the CDP division.

I want nothing but leather touching my SS 1911, so I decided for the following gear: DeSantis Top Cop 2.0 (Open top leather holster with a paddle!) and Bladetech Quad Mag pouch (images below).

I have to say the quality of the DeSantis holster is top notch, made in USA, and for less than $60.00! Bladetech proudly made in the USA too!

Those of you who compete in IDPA with 1911s, am I on the right track with my equipment?

I don't know anything regarding IDPA competition, so I'm really of no help.

But I will ask/say this regarding your set up.

1) The quad mag pouch looks bulky and uninviting. Couldn't you use 2 double mag pouches, side by side like what's used for USPSA? For me, I could see myself grabbing 2 mags instead of 1 because of how close they are located together. Also, in IDPA, aren't you required to put the empty mag back into the mag pouch when doing mag changes? Or can you just use your pocket? In USPSA, they dump them on the ground. :D

2) Regarding the RO's naked front strap, you may want to look into the following products to enhance your grip. Wilson Combat makes a "drop in" checkered front strap that is held in place by the grips. People as also known to use skateboard tape/traction tape that you can find at Home Depot for next to nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/DMiVT8Ol.jpg

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Checkere...ductinfo/100S/

Even cheaper on Fleabay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHECKERED-FR...wAAOSwUKxYkowz

Check with A&G gunleather on a belt. Member here

The holster looks fine.

IDPA rule 8.6.C:
D. For male shooters only, ammunition carriers must hold the loading devices (magazines) such that a ¾ inch dowel placed between the shooter and the device contacts both the shooter and the device simultaneously.

I think that rules out the Quad-Mag Pouch.

You can use two double mag pouches. The rear mag pouch has to be behind the centerline, and must be empty when "Stand By" is called. In the rear mag pouch, I have one mag for the Barney round (which then goes into a pocket), and one for the gun. The front mag pouch is for reloads. Any extra mags have to be in your pocket.

As far as mag changes, you can dump an empty mag from slide-lock on the ground, but a tactical reload requires retention of the mag. You can just drop it into a pants pocket. Putting it back into the mag pouch is a VERY BAD idea!

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

Great response. But I do believe the quad pouch qualifies. I doubt you can put that 3/4" dowel rod and still have space between the pouch and shooter.

We'll see...

Nice setup, good luck bro. I'm just here to watch, no experience with competitions.

Why?
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Because you might grab an empty mag when reloading.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

It's not between the pouch and the shooter, it's between the device and the shooter. The mag is the "loading device." The pouch is the "carrier."

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

Ok. Well I initiated a return through Amazon prime. Now looking for single carrier options.

You want double carriers (2 mag) for IDPA.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

Ah, thank you, sir. That's where the confusion lies. I don't do IDPA so to me a tac (or tactical) reload is done only when there are rounds left in a mag.

Pitor check out this maker, I use one for daily carry. Holds the mag just fine Here is a double mag carrier for a 1911

http://www.kytexgear.com/products-pa...e-mag-carrier/

Normally, yes. But any reload that is not from slidelock is a tactical reload, even if the mag is empty (but a round in the chamber). You don't want to use a partial mag in a match if you have full mags - you are allowed to carry extra mags in your pocket. And if you still have a full mag in the pouch, if you put a partial mag back in the pouch, you might accidentally grab it instead of the full mag on the next reload.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...&pictureid=888

Not really, I do not like the minimal space between double mag pouches. If I can't do the quad, then three or four single pouches will do. A lot of the double pouches look like would not satisfy the 3/4" dowel between shooter and device/carrier.

Thank you. Kytex makes great products.

Good; quad mag pouches aren't allowed in IDPA.

I ended up ordering a Fobus paddle double mag pouch, I've had Fobus before and the quality was good, made in Israel. We'll see. I also ordered two CMC 8rd power mags. I had previously ordered two 10rd power mags, but apparently I can't use them for IDPA as the gun won't fit in their "approved dimensions box". So I'll use those for home defense.

You can use one of the 10 rounders as your "extra round loader" mag.

The IDPA load capacity for Custom Defense Pistol (CDP) which is the class you'll shoot your .45acp 1911 in; is "eight plus one."

So, you'll start by loading one round from your loader mag, remove that mag, then replace it with a fully loaded eight round mag.

You'll most likely want to keep it in your left hip pocket, a fully loaded eight rounder in your left front pocket, and two more eight rounders in your mag carrier.

That way, you'll start with the loader from the hip pocket for one round, then load the eight rounder from your left front pocket, which leaves the two eight rounders in the mag carrier readily accessible as you're shooting the stage.

Generally, you'll want to have three eight rounders, plus a loader mag, at a minimum, to shoot CDP.

The last two stages at today's IDPA match were limited, and took 24 rounds each to complete.

Thank you, great advice