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Caleb 05-23-2020 08:38 PM

New EDC is here!
 
Finally received my new pistol I plan to edc after I put a couple hundred rounds through it to make sure it goes bang every time.

Here is the thing..... I don’t carry a spare mag (maybe a bad thing but, I just don’t). I really do not like having to carry so many things in my pocket or belt, I just fee uncomfortable like that. Anywho, my current carry piece is a great little single stack by Walther (PPS M2) but, it only holds 8+1. That might be enough or it might not depending on the situation. So, I always feel “unprepared “ when I leave the house because I don’t carry that extra mag (I’ve tried in the past). Simple solution right.....carry a double stack. I’ve tried and it’s not comfortable for me. YMMV.

Then the Sig p365 comes out and my eyes light up. This is the one, I tell myself. Then, the reports come back that it has all kinds of issues. My heart sinks and I accept that I’m stuck with 8+1, blah. After a while Glock comes out with the G43X......a single stack subcompact pistol that holds 10+1. That’s more than what I got but, it’s a Glock (I don’t really care for them). So, I figure it’s not worth it to me to gear up with a new edc setup for two more rounds. A little time goes by and a company by the name of Shield Arms blows minds all over with their version of the Glock mag that holds...........take a breath.......15 freakin rounds! All in the same footprint as the OEM Glock mag. What?!? Wait, aftermarket mags usually are not as good as factory and usually have an unacceptable failure rate for carry. So, I wait for the reviews and tests and Bam! they are all positive (all the ones I’ve seen anyways) and these mags are the new bees knees. Now I’m sold!

The search begins then, Covid hits and the world goes crazy and buys all the freakin guns. Crap, can’t find a G43X in stock anywhere to save my life. So I wait patiently. Finally found one in stock at a really good price (below msrp) and order that puppy.

Time for a holster. I prefer leather for IWB carry so, I go to my usual leather company. Little Bear Customs. But, he seams to be closed or unresponsive to emails.....maybe because of the Covid shutdowns. So, I speak to AFJuvat and he recommends I try 1791 Gunleather Holsters. Found one that I like and ordered it, sooooo glad I did..... this holster is made by a true craftsman. Thanks for the suggestion bro!

I received the mags first then, the holster. The pistol took a week to ship and a few more days to arrive at my FFL. I picked it up on Friday and immediately started the break-in period by putting the pistol in a ziplock bag and holstering it. One night and it’s already breaking in nicely but, I’ll let it sit there for about a week.

Once I can get out to the range and make sure this thing fires the Federal HST hp rounds with absolutely no failures, I’ll start to carry it. I’ll put at least 2-300 rounds through it before that tho.

Sorry not sorry this post is a bit long winded but, I’m stoked (even with the fact that it’s a Glock). On to the pics!

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Shield Arms mag on the left and Glock OEM on the right. Same exact size!
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Rick McC. 05-23-2020 09:03 PM

That’s great, Bro!

There’s worse things than a glock; like a taurus, or a jiminez, or a dose of the clap...

Seriously though; that’s pretty astounding about the mag! It’ll be interesting to see how it performs and holds up.

If the holster doesn’t break in acceptably; try wrapping the pistol in a few layers of waxed paper. Gary Brommeland recommended that when I got my first Brommeland Gunleather holster, and those bitches are tight when new!

Caleb 05-23-2020 11:19 PM

Great advice, thank you. I checked it tonight and it looks like it’ll break in nicely soon. I’ll give it at least two days and check it again.


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sdmc530 05-24-2020 07:17 AM

Atta boy Caleb!! Love that. The size of the 43X frame is awesome. Their standard double stacks sometimes even give my big mitts trouble at the range they are a bit bulky but the singles they produce are fantastic!

didn't know that about the mags...that is a great fined. Glock mags are kind of spendy. My next glock will be a 43X. Was looking at the baby 380 but your selection is much better for carry.

Nice job!!!

sdmc530 05-24-2020 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171653)
, or a dose of the clap...

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pig will be along to tell us about these symptoms…...:D


I love how the stock guns just work. Guys go putting this or that in or on it. Waist of money. I do usually change the take down release to a bit longer one because my fat fingers struggle pulling it down to release the slide but the rest, SOLID BLACk GOLD!

Caleb 05-24-2020 10:01 AM

Yep, the stock config works just fine. Plus, on a carry pistol I don’t change much as far as action goes. I will change the sights (hate Glock sight picture) to my favorite trijicon HD with orange front and blacked out rear as soon as I have an extra $130 or so. Other than that, nothing else.....well maybe the back plate or like you mentioned an extended slide catch. I don’t mess with the trigger assembly, barrel, or slide on an edc. Ymmv


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sdmc530 05-24-2020 10:21 AM

I put a brushed stainless steel on my 40cal long slide Glock because I wanted to match the slide from lone wolf. I actually prefer the all black back plate. I found for me anyway it draws attention away from my eye when aiming. But I am not very disciplined obviously.

Sights, yeah, I don't like stock sights hardly on any guns anymore. Night sights for me when I can!

I never mess with the trigger. Some people polish the parts of the trigger to "tune" it. I did this on my 10mm and found no change except it was shiny. No value, you would have to change out trigger to get a true trigger job. Not worth it at all. On a striker fired gun a trigger job is pointless IMO.

Rick McC. 05-24-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 171660)
I put a brushed stainless steel on my 40cal long slide Glock because I wanted to match the slide from lone wolf. I actually prefer the all black back plate. I found for me anyway it draws attention away from my eye when aiming. But I am not very disciplined obviously.

Sights, yeah, I don't like stock sights hardly on any guns anymore. Night sights for me when I can!

I never mess with the trigger. Some people polish the parts of the trigger to "tune" it. I did this on my 10mm and found no change except it was shiny. No value, you would have to change out trigger to get a true trigger job. Not worth it at all. On a striker fired gun a trigger job is pointless IMO.

Not when it’s an M&P, and you’re using Apex parts. :D

RKP 05-24-2020 02:51 PM

Very nice set up bud, congrats !! :cool:

BlackKnight 05-24-2020 03:33 PM

I’m a big Glock fan so you can’t go wrong, IMO.
I am now carrying my Glock 45 with the RMR as a primary. I do carry an extra magazines, light, knives, etc.

Rick McC. 05-24-2020 04:51 PM

Carrying without a reload is a bit risky if you ask me.

What if your pistol balks, and “slap-rack-bang” ends with no bang?

With single stacks I always carry two extra mags, and with hi-caps at least one.

Caleb 05-24-2020 05:22 PM

Update: The holster is breaking in nicely, I can now remove the pistol with half the effort it took at first. I think another 24hrs and it’ll be time to remove the ziplock bag.

I’ve also ordered the metal mag release (recommended because the OEM is polymer and the mags are metal) to replace the polymer OEM one. I have also ordered my favorite sights to put on carry pistols (not that sights are needed). Trijicon HD night sights with orange front and blacked out rear.


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Riverpigusmc 05-24-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171665)
Carrying without a reload is a bit risky if you ask me.

What if your pistol balks, and “slap-rack-bang” ends with no bang?

With single stacks I always carry two extra mags, and with hi-caps at least one.

Yup. I even carry one for my turd slinger Shield .45

Caleb 05-24-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171662)
Not when it’s an M&P, and you’re using Apex parts. :D


This^^^ Some guns can benefit from a good aftermarket trigger set.....M&P is a great example.

But, for me on a carry piece I will leave the OEM in tact. Just train to shoot it as proficient as I can.


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Caleb 05-24-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171665)
Carrying without a reload is a bit risky if you ask me.

What if your pistol balks, and “slap-rack-bang” ends with no bang?

With single stacks I always carry two extra mags, and with hi-caps at least one.


I hear ya and I’ve tried.

If “slap-rack-bang” ends with no bang then, there is something seriously wrong that an extra mag can’t fix (unless that mag is empty).

I’ll have 15+1 on tap with this single stack. That’s the same amount I would have with my current edc plus an extra mag!

I do want to try a pocket mag holder I have seen online. Looks to be minimal and will hold your mag like you are carrying a pocket knife (which I always do). Then I’ll have 32 rounds on tap.


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sdmc530 05-24-2020 07:09 PM

I will confess, I don't conceal carry with a spare mag either. I figure its going to work or not and the time it doesn't the time waisted ducking with it trying to clear and/or reload..that time wont matter and it would be too late. Maybe the wrong mindset but I feel like if you don't shoot first or soon after its probably going to be too late :(

BlackKnight 05-24-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 171670)
I will confess, I don't conceal carry with a spare mag either. I figure its going to work or not and the time it doesn't the time waisted ducking with it trying to clear and/or reload..that time wont matter and it would be too late. Maybe the wrong mindset but I feel like if you don't shoot first or soon after its probably going to be too late :(

That’s if you’re lucky to have only one bad guy.
Here we have roving bandits. They’re cowards and only are tough when they’re in groups and/or armed. It’s not uncommon to get robbed or carjacked by three or more.

I’m always prepping for worse case scenario. In my truck I have an O S bag with 4 additional magazines for each of the guns I may have on my person, a ballistic plate, trauma kit, and other essentials. In most instances I won’t need to act or intervene, but you never know.
I guess I can’t easily erase 25 years of acting.

sdmc530 05-24-2020 08:13 PM

Tony, I am begging you MOVE.....another reason to not be there! ;)

Rick McC. 05-24-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Caleb (Post 171669)
I hear ya and I’ve tried.

If “slap-rack-bang” ends with no bang then, there is something seriously wrong that an extra mag can’t fix (unless that mag is empty).

Not at all. Stripping out the first mag will clear out a double feed, or any of a number of other problems. Load a fresh mag and you’re back in business. Like most things; practicing the skills before you need them is important.

I’ll have 15+1 on tap with this single stack. That’s the same amount I would have with my current edc plus an extra mag!

I do want to try a pocket mag holder I have seen online. Looks to be minimal and will hold your mag like you are carrying a pocket knife (which I always do). Then I’ll have 32 rounds on tap.

You can buy a cheap folding knife case for a couple of bucks and make your own. I have several, which aren’t used much unless I wear jeans. My regular daily wear pants and shorts have two mag pouches sewed inside of each cargo pocket.

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 171670)
I will confess, I don't conceal carry with a spare mag either. I figure its going to work or not and the time it doesn't the time waisted ducking with it trying to clear and/or reload..that time wont matter and it would be too late. Maybe the wrong mindset but I feel like if you don't shoot first or soon after its probably going to be too late :(

By the end of my wife's first weekend of training in Brownie’s TFP course; she was completing her reloads before the empty mag had hit the ground.

Again, advance training is the key to most things.


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Originally Posted by BlackKnight (Post 171671)
That’s if you’re lucky to have only one bad guy.
Here we have roving bandits. They’re cowards and only are tough when they’re in groups and/or armed. It’s not uncommon to get robbed or carjacked by three or more.

I’m always prepping for worse case scenario. In my truck I have an O S bag with 4 additional magazines for each of the guns I may have on my person, a ballistic plate, trauma kit, and other essentials. In most instances I won’t need to act or intervene, but you never know.
I guess I can’t easily erase 25 years of acting.

That’s the damn truth! The majority of criminal encounters one hears of these days (and for several years now) involve multiple BGs. If I need to go through an area where such types are found; my EDC for that day will be an M&P9 loaded 17+1, and at least two 17 round reloads, plus an AR with a few 30 round reloads in the floor behind my passenger seat. A Mossberg Shockwave loaded with six rounds of #4 buck lives back there.

Riverpigusmc 05-25-2020 07:42 AM

Yep. In my truck, I keep a get home bag with extra mags, knives, compass, rope saw, kwik clot and sticky pads for sucking chest wounds, along with pepper spray and tazer in the console, a baby Kbar Mike Lutz gave me, a Cold Steel City Stick, and a Shockwave loaded with 00 buck along with a reload

Caleb 05-25-2020 10:23 AM

A shockwave is on my list for the vehicle. Not sure if I want to go with the Mossberg or the Remington. If I add a pistol grip brace, I’ll buy the Remmie. If I leave it with stock grip I’ll get the mossy. I have a quick access spot for a full sized handgun within drivers reach as well. Will have to find a holster that will work to hold it in place.


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BlackKnight 05-25-2020 11:45 AM

Sniff, damn! I love you guys.
I would go to battle with you guys any day!


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Riverpigusmc 05-25-2020 01:57 PM

Lol..forget the brace. You'll find that these guns are as accurate as chunkin a rock at a herd of possums. They are literally spray and do damage while you beat feet

Horse'nround 05-25-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 171670)
I will confess, I don't conceal carry with a spare mag either. I figure its going to work or not and the time it doesn't the time waisted ducking with it trying to clear and/or reload..that time wont matter and it would be too late. Maybe the wrong mindset but I feel like if you don't shoot first or soon after its probably going to be too late :(

Seriously DUDE, we need to talk. Do you go to work with just 1 mag in your hammer??:eek: No, you have a whole bat utility belt full of handy BS with a least 2 spare mags. So why would you go puttering off with the family on a single stick??? I won't even load a horse in the trailer and drag mama to a riding lessons without a pair of backups to my DW and she has a Sig in her purse, yes with a spare.
Chance favors the prepared... Mind and equipment! And chances are, now days you will run across multiple BG's over a lone wackadoddle. SO GEAR UP!

BlackKnight 05-25-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Horse'nround (Post 171685)
Chance favors the prepared... Mind and equipment! And chances are, now days you will run across multiple BG's over a lone wackadoddle. SO GEAR UP!

So true. I live in a relative safe town, but my mother-in-law does not.
Also, bad guys do not recognize town borders anyway. Actually, they like to go to where they deem rich towns.
Another wrinkle is I till bump into people I have investigate and/or arrested throughout my career.
So again, best be prepared. Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

P.S. Wish I could have a SBR or a shottie in my vehicle. Something else frowned upon here.

sdmc530 05-25-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Horse'nround (Post 171685)
Seriously DUDE, we need to talk. Do you go to work with just 1 mag in your hammer??:eek: No, you have a whole bat utility belt full of handy BS with a least 2 spare mags. So why would you go puttering off with the family on a single stick??? I won't even load a horse in the trailer and drag mama to a riding lessons without a pair of backups to my DW and she has a Sig in her purse, yes with a spare.
Chance favors the prepared... Mind and equipment! And chances are, now days you will run across multiple BG's over a lone wackadoddle. SO GEAR UP!

alright alright, point made! I will straighten up and get better equipped. I have all the leather to carry the stuff too.

Caleb, you going to do better with me?! 2 mag brigade with me?

Caleb 05-25-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 171695)
alright alright, point made! I will straighten up and get better equipped. I have all the leather to carry the stuff too.

Caleb, you going to do better with me?! 2 mag brigade with me?


I will be ordering a mag holder soon and try it out.


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Rick McC. 05-25-2020 09:09 PM

I’m glad to hear that y’all are open to suggestions from folk who care about you, and hope you’re never in need of the extra gear!

Rick McC. 05-25-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackKnight (Post 171680)
Sniff, damn! I love you guys.
I would go to battle with you guys any day!

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We appreciate that Sir!

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Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc (Post 171683)
Lol..forget the brace. You'll find that these guns are as accurate as chunkin a rock at a herd of possums. They are literally spray and do damage while you beat feet

Actually; mine patterns damn well with #4 buck. :D

sdmc530 05-25-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171709)
I’m glad to hear that y’all are open to suggestions from folk who care about you, and hope you’re never in need of the extra gear!

Your right about it all, I was just being a defiant dangerous punk about it.

Good of you to not brush it off and make sure you get your point across. Its good people on here who always look out for a brother/sister!!

Caleb 05-26-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 171716)
Your right about it all, I was just being a defiant dangerous punk about it.

Good of you to not brush it off and make sure you get your point across. Its good people on here who always look out for a brother/sister!!


Agreed. Glad they are around to light the way when needed.


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Caleb 05-26-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc (Post 171683)
Lol..forget the brace. You'll find that these guns are as accurate as chunkin a rock at a herd of possums. They are literally spray and do damage while you beat feet


I was wondering about that and what the spread is on such a short barrel. What do you run in it while on truck duty?


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Caleb 05-26-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171709)
I’m glad to hear that y’all are open to suggestions from folk who care about you, and hope you’re never in need of the extra gear!


Thank you Sir.


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Caleb 05-27-2020 01:11 PM

New night sights came in and I installed them last night. These are my favorite and I’ve tried a few. Trijicon HD orange from with blacked out rear, U shape.

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Riverpigusmc 05-27-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Caleb (Post 171724)
I was wondering about that and what the spread is on such a short barrel. What do you run in it while on truck duty?


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Military surplus 00 buck with a reload in the hangin gun case in my truck. As far as spread, all I can tell ya is it knocked hell out of two trees at about 7 yards

Rick McC. 05-27-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Caleb (Post 171724)
I was wondering about that and what the spread is on such a short barrel. What do you run in it while on truck duty?


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I’ve shot mine at 10 yards after IDPA practice.

The 2 3/4” #4 buck patterns nicely in the COM A-zone of an IDPA silhouette target, and the second shot I took at the head removed just about all of it from the body.

I shot a five pack of the buck, and brought along an old box of high brass #6 shot (1960’s vintage) for anyone else that wanted to try it. They finished that box in short order. Everyone liked the little Mossberg, and I know of at least one guy who went out and bought his own, as I shot it a few weeks later.

The Mossberg holds six rounds of three inch 12 gauge shells; the Remington holds five. I don’t know about the 20 gauge ones they make now, but I’d imagine they’re the same.

I had no problems hitting with it from about half way between the 3/4 hip and point shoulder positions, but anyone without threat focused shooting training may have a problem, especially if they hold it up in front of their face so they can look over the bead. I would NOT recommend trying to shoot it that way. It’s also very easy to shoot from the hip from a recoil standpoint, as long as you’ve trained to shoot that way.

Pirate 05-27-2020 09:59 PM

Caleb, little bear changed names to ronin leather. I will have to check but I can text you his cell number.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ced0da9973.jpg

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Caleb 05-28-2020 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick McC. (Post 171741)
I’ve shot mine at 10 yards after IDPA practice.

The 2 3/4” #4 buck patterns nicely in the COM A-zone of an IDPA silhouette target, and the second shot I took at the head removed just about all of it from the body.

I shot a five pack of the buck, and brought along an old box of high brass #6 shot (1960’s vintage) for anyone else that wanted to try it. They finished that box in short order. Everyone liked the little Mossberg, and I know of at least one guy who went out and bought his own, as I shot it a few weeks later.

The Mossberg holds six rounds of three inch 12 gauge shells; the Remington holds five. I don’t know about the 20 gauge ones they make now, but I’d imagine they’re the same.

I had no problems hitting with it from about half way between the 3/4 hip and point shoulder positions, but anyone without threat focused shooting training may have a problem, especially if they hold it up in front of their face so they can look over the bead. I would NOT recommend trying to shoot it that way. It’s also very easy to shoot from the hip from a recoil standpoint, as long as you’ve trained to shoot that way.


Thanks for the info bro, much appreciated.


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Caleb 05-28-2020 10:31 PM

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Caleb, little bear changed names to ronin leather. I will have to check but I can text you his cell number.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ced0da9973.jpg

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Thank you Sir, received.


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Caleb 05-31-2020 12:02 PM

Installed a back plate today.

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