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Old 04-27-2011, 09:16 AM
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I have a Colt Defender my wife loves to carry and shoot. It's light, compact and very dependable - but not two toned if she wants that. Now your getting into Mimber country.

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Old 04-28-2011, 09:02 AM
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my New Agent (a Defender sans sights) is on my hip everyday .
appx 700 rnds and I've had two or three stoppages with last rnd in one particular Wilson mag with one particular HP rnd.

that mag is no longer in the carry rotation

If she likes the Defender , I think it would be great choice .

The Kimber Ultra CDP is one of, if not THE nicest looking factory pistols made.
But they're like Dodge trucks to me...damnfine looking and not a "bad" truck, just not as good as a Ford (Colt)


I'll also echo what a few said about sub-compact 1911s.
In "general" they have more MALF probs than Commander and FS slides .
More things have to be "more right" for compacts to run reliably .
Mags, ammo, hold, etc are all part of the equation that need a good shake out to prove they're reliable for carry.

Change anything , like a different mag or ammo, and it needs to run plenty before carry



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Old 04-28-2011, 03:39 PM
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I'll also echo what a few said about sub-compact 1911s.
In "general" they have more MALF probs than Commander and FS slides .
More things have to be "more right" for compacts to run reliably .
Mags, ammo, hold, etc are all part of the equation that need a good shake out to prove they're reliable for carry.

Change anything , like a different mag or ammo, and it needs to run plenty before carry

..L.T.A.
IMO, taking a new gun out of the box, taking it apart, putting it back together and working with it at the range to break it in is half the reason that I buy a gun. I see guns as a puzzle that provide some entertainment in the beginning while I work out all the rough edges after which they serve another purpose---self defense.
This is the process I go through to have a reliable carry gun. Just my opinion.
Just think how boring it would be if every gun worked 100% right out of the box, and there would be many aftermarket people out of work.
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I'd frankly try to talk her out of a 3" by both explaining the impulse physics of the design where shorter slide/barrels have much more critical timing requirements and therefore are much more susceptible to malfunction, and the fact that it's the frame grip size that is more important than slide length for concealability. I'd want the most reliable package for her and a 3" isn't it.

I see the Colt Defender/New Agent, Dan Wesson CCO, and Brown Kobra Carry LW as options.

Don't take this personally but, trying to get a female to grasp the meaning of what you said is going to be difficult at best. She probably will be more interested in having about 15 sets of grips so she can accessorize it to match her outfit for the day.

This is my Kimber Ultra CDP with Crimson Trace laser grips and it hasn't had one failure since I took it out of the box. Just clean, lube and feed it ammo, it'll treat you good.

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Veitvet, I gotta side with Bold and Titan on this one, nothing smaller than a CCO. That way she gets the officers' type grip and a less problematic 4" Bbl.
Unless she has the wrists of a female weightlifter, I'd stay away from the 3" guns. JMO.
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Have full size 1911s, Colt Commander, Colt CCO and Defender. If I really concentrate, I might feel a difference in recoil
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Sorry duplicated - TDS's fault!
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:29 PM
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My wife is 5'6 and weight 135 lbs. She has no trouble shooting the defender in fact she loves to shoot it. If your wife wants a .45 she will have no trouble with it either. I took the rubber grips off first thing though - very ugly in my opinion.

Let her shoot one and make her own mind up!

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Well I know she really likes the looks of the defender! And as far as I'm conserned,we all want a pistol that appeals to our taste! And from what I've read in the post's,from defender owners. They must be pretty reliable,which of course is very important to me! Now don't take me wrong, I have no doubt that the CCO, Guardian, Cdp and any other pistol that has been mentioned here, are reliable as well. But I guess the bottom line is, what she likes, and the price. And the defender seems to be pretty reasonable there as well. But the jury is still out, so please any recomendations you guy's have, we still want to hear them. And thanks to everyone who has posted!
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