These are very graphic pics

[Blue Ridge]

I'll know to just nod and smile politely the next time some "expert" tells me that anything smaller than (30/06,.308, etc.) is an inadequate rifle caliber for self-defense. Actually, I already did that but I had NO idea the exit hole was going to look anything like that!

[BadOscar]

I read some of the thread over there, some of it was very interesting.