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Old 03-13-2017, 02:10 PM
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All that can be done with one single pull from the handle of a Dillon 650 XL.

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Old 03-13-2017, 03:54 PM
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All that can be done with one single pull from the handle of a Dillon 650 XL.

Just sayin'.........
... you don't have to sell me on a 650. If I was working, had deep pockets, raising a family and had very little time... I'd have one in a heartbeat. Fact is tho...

First, there are a bunch of people that just can't afford $1154 (today's price for a good version of the 650) or $1159 for the comparable LNL. That would be with the bullet and case feeders. Even at base levels, to get into reloading for $150 or so for a Lee... or have to spend 549 for a Dillon 550B, can be a huge stretch. And so, I have to stand by my position that for many people, single stage or a turret press is the way to go. Not to mention the learning curve/safety issues for new reloaders. And I also understand your position. If I lived in California, I would want to have a 650 for when the secession comes about. You will have a skill that will keep you safe. You'll be an ammo maker! (Just kidding, I DO understand your love of the 650! But there are alternatives....


Secondly, if you load more than two or three calibers, you would have to agree that the cost goes up. Large and small primer tubes, shell plates, etc...I load for 380,38,9mm,38 Super, 357mag .40 and 45 cal. In addition, I load for 7.62 x 39 7.62 Russian and 5.56/.223. I'm not loading 1000 rounds at a time, which.. btw.. I have plenty of since I'm retired.
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AND...... for you folks with really deep pockets.... No 650 or 1050 is truly complete without this add on from Ponsness/Warren. It's only $950... just a house payment... or a case of really good wine... scroll down the link to watch the video.... ... you're gonna drool over this one!

https://www.reloaders.com/products/d...650-auto-drive
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AND...... for you folks with really deep pockets.... No 650 or 1050 is truly complete without this add on from Ponsness/Warren. It's only $950... just a house payment... or a case of really good wine... scroll down the link to watch the video.... ... you're gonna drool over this one!

https://www.reloaders.com/products/d...650-auto-drive
OMG...., we NEED this. So awesome, tell you what you buy one I will try it out and make sure it works right and then I will send it to you.
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I hear ya padre on the initial cost of the set up. But that being said, what is your time worth? Not you persay as you're retired. But let's say mine. My free time is starts at $50 hr. Now, that being said, why would I want to waste my time and money doing the same thing over and over again?

We drop serious coin on our rifles and pistols, so why not into reloading equipment? That always baffles me.

I'm still a firm believer in buy once, cry once. Wish I would've Known that statement years ago and bought the Dillon and not the RCBS.
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I have to agree with here I don't get a lot free time these days. With kid, wifes super busy career me working crazy hours i like to give my free time to jr when i can. On my days off besides house chores i like to bike and shoot of course.

I am not saying nobody else has a crazy life no matter what age you are but if i can reload at a faster pace and still put out a good boolit then its a win win. Guys will drop 2k on a gun or whatever but reloading that saves money they don't like.

I only had to pony up half of my set up as my dad gifted me half so I could afford the set up of my wet dreams. If for not him I would still be on a single stage. Although with the time it takes to do a couple thousand rounds I probably would have stopped reloading until i had the time again years down the road.

I think it really depends on your time allotment you can give to a certain hobby. If i would have to give up reloading now it would kill me. Just great fun.

I do have to admit one thing the single stage purchase that got me started i now feel was not worth it. I knew back then I would get a progressive of some sort someday i do wish I would have not purchased it and gone big right off. My lee set up was excellent and worked like a champ but just should of been more patient.
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I am not sold on loading dirty brass.



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We drop serious coin on our rifles and pistols, so why not into reloading equipment? That always baffles me.
We'll probably not agree on cost, time because it is all about personal preferences. I have plenty of time, and am short on "income" ... but this quote from is one that I haven't heard before. And it has a strong ring of truth to it. So, maybe I need to look in my safe and get rid of a safe queen or two to finance a progressive.

Which will certainly light some fires around here. I would probably purchase the Hornady LNL, simply because its not blue. ROFL.... not really... just chuckling.

Good statement , you almost got me to roll over and buy a Dillon!

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We'll probably not agree on cost, time because it is all about personal preferences. I have plenty of time, and am short on "income" ... but this quote from is one that I haven't heard before. And it has a strong ring of truth to it. So, maybe I need to look in my safe and get rid of a safe queen or two to finance a progressive.

Which will certainly light some fires around here. I would probably purchase the Hornady LNL, simply because its not blue. ROFL.... not really... just chuckling.

Good statement , you almost got me to roll over and buy a Dillon!

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