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			It can sometimes be attributed to limp wristing. Let somebody else run the pistol w/ the same ammo and mags and see if the problem occurs. If so, try changing the springs in the mags.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Last edited by Xbonz; 07-23-2013 at 06:08 PM.  | 
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			factory or reloads? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			How old are the mags? How many rounds through them? Does it noes dive when you release the slide using your hand not the slide release? 
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 the mags are as old as the pistol, and are always loaded. they are only used in this pistol. it only nosedives (so far) when using the slide release. if the springs in these mags are already worn out, then maybe I should switch mags! and I see you understand my name haha  | 
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			What is happening then is the slide release is letting the slide go to slow. Some how the slide release is binding against something as you use it.  Typically slide releases cause wear on the slide.  Many people avoid this by releasing the slide with your hand not the release.  There will be those that shout "You should be releasing the slide with your hand not the slide release."  Put the original back in and see if it still binds.  Are there any other  swapped out parts?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			That is the only swapped out part, and unfortunately like an idiot i dont have the original. damn. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	anyone have a source for one? and I just checked the pistol, and there are copper marks on the frame right below the barrel where the rounds are hitting. so they are definitely nosediving pretty low.  | 
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			Rack the gun by releasing the slide with your hands and see if you have a failure.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			What are you using for lube? How often are you cleaning? when was the last time it was lubed or cleaned? 
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 but it is well lubed and cleaned now. always is.  | 
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			I would then find out where it is binding and clean it up a little.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			email kieth at dan wesson or call them for a replacement. 
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			Springs wear from being cycled during use, not from compression from being loaded. Is this the only type ammo cauisng the failure? Are you using a shock buff? I'm with Aaron, sounds like the slide is moving too slow...how old and what weight is the recoil spring? That's where I'd look first...once your slide stop releases the slide, it's job is done unless it's binding 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			ETA: just saw you rpleaced the slide stop...unless you're lucky they seldom just drop in and need fitting...I'd check for binding like Aaron said, and check the recoil spring, as it can also cause a slow moving slide 
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 This is the only ammo that I have encountered failing thus far Definitely not using a Shok Buff The spring is as old as the pistol, 1 year and 800 rounds or so. And I can agree, but I wouldnt know how to check for binding and such note: while I agree that I should have never swapped the slide release, It has been in this pistol for pretty much all of the rounds shot through it, so being that the problem just started now, i'm still not completely convinced. I really hope that DW will send another though Last edited by masakari; 07-23-2013 at 06:56 PM.  |